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that is not enough. >> stephanie: oh, okay. because john sununu said he is lazy and stupid. romney walked back his own tax plan telling president obama and the american people he would not support a plan that cut taxes on the wealthy and raise taxes on the middle class -- that is mathematically impossible. as i read the actual -- like thing romney said, he basically just said huh-uh because i say so. >> wow. >> stephanie: he said so there's no economist that says the plan adds $5 trillion if i say it won't. [ applause ] >> stephanie: all right. wow. okay. so and as i was always saying i thought axelrod said it right. he said the strategy was effective in the short-term vulnerable in the long term. romney gave a good performance, the problem is none of it was rooted in fact. he told the debate medicare is -- mr. etch-a-sketch said that was wrong. the romney camp had to send someone in the spin room right after the debate to say, well he can't really do that. as for taxed obama appeared to be caught off guard by the statement that his plan wouldn't increase taxes. much of romney'
clear politics poll average shows his poll leading there. ohio governor john kasich is on the show and welcome. the polls show that mitt romney is trailing. how do you explain that and is that true. >> you know, paul i don't pay a lot of attention to polls because it depends on what they take and the sample. these guys have been in ohio and they should start paying income tax. this thing is as close can be they both wouldn't be here. i expect this to go down to the wire. we are always a swing state. it will be very close. >> paul: so the democrats are saying one of big things that is helping the spent the auto bailout. is that how you lead to to help the president? >> look, we're up 123,000 jobs over the last year and three-quarters. we're actually according to the bureau of labor statistics down 500 jobs, auto jobs in ohio. the situation. chrysler has expanded and ford and gm have shrunk their footprint but we stabilizing. auto industry out here. of the 123,000 jobs, most of them, biggest categories are business services and healthcare. we are having specialty manufacturing reboun
much better. >> one of your colleagues, speaker john boehner had something to say about the race in ohio. i want to get your reaction to it. >> one of the things that probably works against romney in ohio is the fact that governor kasich has done such a good job of fixing businesses in the state and attracting businesses in the state. our unemployment rate in ohio is lower than the national average. i think it's four points lower than the national average. as a result, people are still concerned about the competent and jobs in ohio but certainly isn't like you've seen in other states. >> patti ann: no question, is the paradox here that john kasich the republican governor is helping president obama win reelection? >> you know, paul i think i don't accept that. fact of the matter it's hard to defeat an incumbent president. two, ohio has always been a swing state and number three, in order for mitt romney to do better he has to be here more. the situation is we are doing better here. we went from 89 cents rainy day fund to loss of 400,000 jobs to up 123, so people are feeling better
. >> and john travolta and olivia newton john are swinging together for the first time in 35 years. they are putting out a charity holiday music album titled "this christmas". there are also other guest artists appearing on the album including kenny g. >> that is a who's who of musics will never listen to ever. >> john and olivia do the hits. >> you got it. >> holy cow do i not want to hear that. [ laughter ] >> could turn into a vegas show you never know. >> you never know. thanks dan. go to 866-55-press 866-557-7377. you may have heard yesterday there was a story, peter -- yesterday there was a story. >> yes. >> this story about a former governor a former chief of staff to a former president john sununu has some amazing things to say about the president. >> what people saw last night we saw a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is and he has absolutely no idea how serious the problems of america is. >> he called the president lazy and detached. andrea mitchell tried to give him a way out. >> did you really mean to call barack obama
national correspondent john king is in denver getting ready for the debate over there. that's the site of the debate. john, take us into these numbers. what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, wolf, i can tell you this, talking to senior officials in the romney campaign, they believe after a tough week or ten days, the last several days, they have a little bit of a breeze at their back. they say the race has stabilized. you dig into the numbers. what is the most important issue in this first debate? the economy. look at this poll. which candidate would better handle the economy? the president, 49%, governor romney, 48%. a dead heat. the president has to defend his record. governor romney not only needs to attack his record but to convince voters he has a better place to take them if he wins the election. and you know this full well, the reason this debate and what both candidates say in the economy is so important is the friday morning after the wednesday night debate, we'll get the latest unemployment report. if governor romney could turn in a strong debate performance and another tepi
. they need to impress undecided voters most. john king is at the magic wall for us. zero in on the stage where the candidates hope to gain grnd. >> the burden you would have to say is higher on mitt romney trailing in the race for the 270 electoral votes. they're debating in colorado, a dead heat. but the president has taken the edge in wisconsin, ohio, virginia and in florida. governor romney e needs to change this dynamic around because if the president were to keep two of those four, he would be almost impossible to stop. >> thank you. let's go to the debate hall where candy crowley is standing by. she's one of the moderators in the 2012 presidential debate series. the focus tonight on domestic issues, especially the economy. >> absolutely. this is parched into six, 15-minute segsegments, if you w. if first three, health care, then government. very broad suggests which would include any number of questions. each candidates gets two minutes to answer and then the rest of the time will be in discussing it. i want to bring in jessica yellin now. i know you've got an exclusive look at how
. >> remember the scream? howard dean led john kerry in early polls, but then after a loss he tried to rally the troops. >> we're going to california, and texas, and new york! >> the room was noisy. and people in the room said, this sounded like a normal rally. >> and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house! yay! >> but because dean's microphone picked up only dean's voice, the tv broadcast made him sound crazy. >> yay! >> that unfairly may have killed his campaign. even images can matter more than issues. this video is said to have hurt john kerry. this is said to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >>
. president obama is leading in the polls but can mitt romney turn it around? we'll ask john kasich. just call him the 10% president. that is what he spiax responsibility for the deficit and libya is still raising more questions for the white house. it could have been stopped? >> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. you'll eyes were on ohio this week as they both hit the buckeye state hard. hoping to put 18 electoral votes in their col >> paul: politics poll real lot of attention to polls because it depends on what they take and the sample. these guys have been in ohio and they should start paying income tax. this thing is as close can be they both wouldn't be here. i expect this to go down to the wire. we are always a swing state. it will be very close. >> paul: so the democrats are saying one of big things that is helping the spent the auto bailout. is that how you lead to to help the president? >> look, we're up 123,000 jobs over the last year and three-quarters. we're actually according to the bureau of labor statistics down 500 jobs, auto jobs in ohio. the situat
and reporters and cnn contributors. a quick reading right now. john king, david gergen. >> look at e-mails, conversations during the debate. twitterverse, republicans very happy, including the top team around mitt romney. liberals complaining about the president's performance. without a doubt, participating in republican primary debates helped mitt romney, the president was rusty. hasn't done this in four years. that's not an excuse as james said earlier. the obama campaign says that mitt romney doesn't care about your job or your community. we didn't hear anything like that from the president. romney at least held his own on the big questions of the economy and role of government. if you are the challenger and hold your own, you walk off the stage happy. >> critics of the president say he's two proffesorial. i think they'll say that tonight. >> and more. we have a horse race. mitt romney's performance was head and shoulders than anything we've seen before. >> you think this was his best debate? >> he drove this debate far more than anyone else imagined. mitt romney seized upon the o
you here. dana bash is back us with. and anna navarro, a republican strategist that worked with john mccain and now a cnn contributor. we're glad you're all with us this morning. richard, you know, we have you here this morning on a day -- >> so good to be here this morning. >> a challenging day for the democrats. you saw the debate. you saw what our polls are saying this morning. >> there was a debate last night? >> yeah. >> did the president lose this? >> you know, i think luckily for me this morning history tells us that we don't know really who won or lost in terms of where it moved -- if it moved any votes until many days later. these things have to set in. but clearly, as you have been reporting already this morning and as the pundits were saying last night, i think that romney had from a theatrical perspective a great night. >> we have to wait to see what history says about who won or lost. the polls are crystal clear. 60% think romney won. on the issues, romney way ahead of the president also. who would better handle the deficit. 16-point advantage. economy, a 12-point advant
john king joining us from denver, the site of the debate tomorrow night. john, you've taken a close look at these numbers. are there any nuggets in there that may be good for the romney campaign? because 70% of latinos saying they're likely to vote for the president of the united states, that's pretty bad for romney. >> reporter: wolf, i've scrubbed the numbers, looked at the cross tops and in a word, no, there is nothing encouraging for the romney campaign in the poll of likely latino voters. one way you judge an incumbent president, president obama, you ask people what do you think of job performance? all americans are split on that question. do they approve or disapprove of the president's job performance, but among latinos, nearly 7 in 10, 68% say they approve of the president's job performance. look across looking in here to find some nugget of hope for governor romney as latinos describe themselves as moderates, 76%. conservative latino voters, you would think that would be governor romney's base, 55% majority of conservative latinos plan to vote for the democratic president o
to describe the pathway forward for america we would choose. >> i want to bring in john harwood and e.j. deion, author of "our divided political heart." thank you for coming on. we've been hearing this expectation game being played, the other side trying to make the other one seem as if they are the greatest debater who ever lived. let's start with a reality check and strength and weaknesses of these candidates. let's start with president obama. what is the strength in this debate? >> he's very well informed. he is a fluid speaker. he has served as president. he's got a tremendous amount of information at his command. he doesn't mess up very often. he simply doesn't create the memorable gaffe very frequently, although he's had a couple of things with "you didn't build that" and that sort of thing. >> his weakness? >> his weakness is he can come off as prophesorial and arrogant and long-winded. >> how about you? what do you think about the president? what has he got going for him? >> he should twitter because it would force him into shorter answers. he's got the advantage romney has a bunch of
is really remarkable is how little they changed things. they have little impact. in 2004 everybody said john kerry got the best of those. >> he was up after the first one. >> no, he was not. i've got the data right here. the only debate where there was any movement beyond two or three points from the start of the debates till the end was 1976. jerry ford moved ten points, and he made one of the great faux p pases in any debate. it doesn't have the effect that people think that it has. i think there are five things that make a difference. conventions matter a lot. the predicate, where you are in the summer beforehand, the kind of campaign you run and the kind of paid media you have. i think debates are probably fifth. >> boy, mike barnicle, i disagree with it. mark mckinnon disagrees with that. do you think debates don't have an impact, or do you think tonight actually could if mitt romney comes out -- >> i think it will have some impact. >> some impact, but i actually think that's really when the american people, for the first time, see the two candidates and really start to make their minds
was winning independent voters by 13 points. and, in 2008 he defeated john mccain by 8% with independent smacks so with the admonition of less -- let's wait until the dust has settled and see the polls in the next couple of days i'm going to be looking at the numbers in the other thing very quickly in terms of the minority vote. the other thing about barack obama's election in 2008 was the one something on the order of 43% of the white vote and in most of the national polls that is kind of where he is so that will be another number to look out for. the country is changing and in 2008, three-quarters of the electorate was white which was down from the mid-to high 80s 20 years ago and that number is going to change. and the question is in a very close election i don't think anyone thought it would get seven-point race. i think they thought it would be a two or three-point race. the metrics are there for him to win. speak to me, and i'm sorry to interrupt but to me i wanted to -- to meet the most stunning numbers from 2008, if you take out the 29-year-olds and look at the 30 plus mccain and
well in the first debate. remember how badly george bush came off in the first debate with john kerry in '04? all of the debates were in john kerry's favor in '04. was it perhaps that president obama wasn't prepared? busy campaigning and did he perhaps let the prep slide? did he go into the debate with a game plan that the best offense is a good defense? finally, can barack obama get back into a winning mode? the polls were looking good going into this, right? you got two remaining debates with romney. we are going to get some answers and smeperspective from charles blow. i read your column and i know how you feel about this. give me the quick one-liner how you thought last night went? >> obama lost. i play basketball in high school and you're not in your best form and you lose it. doesn't mean you lose the election and the other guy is better. just means you danny show up that night and didn't do a good job. go back, look at the tape and practice hard and come back the next time and do a better job the next time. >> he let himself be interrupted. he didn't call out certain kinds of i
points. these are not implausible assumptions. mitt romney would have to get double john mccain's margin of 18 points. could have to up to 36 points. that is if it does not change. d, ands does get realize if the white college graduates face about the same, it means that met romney would have to get north of 40 point margin of the white voter. let's take a look of where we are now. this is the gold standard. breaks. this shows that obama is leading by 8 points. if you look at the averages, it is a bit high. the averages are running about four points. you are probably up by five points. this is within the averages. it is similar to the pole from the heartland monitor which will talk about later. overall top line, a look at the margin, 91 points. that is basically identical. 7222 among 852 margin. most have been showing this. what this means is that the idea that obama could get 80% of the minority vote is quite logical based on these and other data that looks like what he will get. this shows you the break out for college graduates. , obama is doing a little bit better among white graduat
with senator john kerry and mitt romney is squaring off against senator rob portman. both candidates have challenges and checklists. president obama's working on shorter answers, trying to avoid sounding like the professor he was before the white house. democrats say he needs to look strong and forceful and not appear irritated or impatient. >> they're trying to get him into the mode of being able to answer questions, short, concisely, and to the point, and so it's much more like his mannerisms and his style and the way he comes across as opposed to information in this. >> reporter: and mitt romney? he has to seem relatable, especially after his 47% comment. how can he do that? show compassion? show he's competent and connect with the voters? >> on those three cs that's where he really has got to do well. >> reporter: romney arrived in colorado to continue his debate prep but took a brief break to rally supporters. >> what an honor. what a welcome. what a colorado welcome. thank you so much. >> the prls president also took a break with a visit to the nevada campaign office. >> hi, this is
. really from 1858 until 1960, john f. kennedy versus richard nixon, debates didn't play that big a role in presidential campaigns. there were no presidential debates. but you did have in primaries occasionally, squareoffs going on. interesting to even think about stats from minnesota rarely run for president -- stacken ran for president every four years. kennedy/nixon was the game changer in debate history. people that listened to it thought nixon won on radio but on television, john f. kennedy won. nobody was that happy with the debates. we had no debates in '64 '68 '72. came back in 1976 when jimmy carter ended up doing well because of gerald ford's famous gaffe. that's the big question. can you become gaffe-free? everybody is going to be looking wednesday night to see if there was a mistake made by either person. it puts a lot of pressure on the candidates. >> jennifer: you mention nixon and kennedy and those who saw the debate felt like kennedy won. what do you think is more important? what the candida
's lead has narrowed heading into tonight's big debate. john harwood is in denver getting ready for the big event. john? >> reporter: melissa, we've got several pieces of encouraging news for mitt romney from not only the wall street poll but swing states poll. you mentioned that mitt romney's closed the deficit among likely voters for obama from five points to three points. and in florida, he's closed from five down to one which is tied given the margin of error in our poll. in virginia, he has closed the gap from five to two. if you look at the state of ohio, a must-win state for mitt romney, mathematically possible for him to get to it without it but his strategists think he needs it. he needs to make progress there. but the fact that some of the national polls are coming back a little bit, some of the swing state polls are tightening, is a bit of an earn couragement for romney that he still has an opportunity for deficit with three or four points to change the dynamic in some way. he's got to hope that obama is not on his best game. you could have a scenario that like what h
compared with 26 terz for mitt romney. romney here is doing worse than john mccain did back in 2008 who got 31%. the latino vote. also worse than george w. bush in 2004 who got 44% of the latino. anna, to you. is there anything at this point that romney can do to get the latino support up? >> well, suzanne, i think praying on novina might help. look, he -- we had a tough primary on the republican side. i think mitt romney has been an unknown commodity to his hispani hispanics. he doesn't come from a border state like john mccain or george w. bush did. he has not done a great intense voter outreach with the latinos because he ran out of money after the primary. he -- let me just be absolutely truthful and give smu straight talk as john mccain would say. mitt romney dug himself into a hole with latinos during the primary. he said some things that are coming back to haunt him. he now needs to find a way to dig himself out of that hole. i think the only way he will do it is if he really continues the intense activity outreach with latinos, speaks to latinos a directly as he can and as often as
was winning among independent voters by 13 points. in 2008, he defeated john mccain by 8% of independents. let's see where polls settle. i will be looking at the independent numbers. the other thing about barack obama's election, he won 43% of the white vote. in most of the national polls, that is where he is. look, the country is changing. in 2008, three-quarters of the electorate was white, down from the mid to high-80's. that number is going to change. in a close election -- i do not think anybody thought it would be a seven-point race. the metrics are there for him to win. >> to me, the most stunning numbers from 2008 -- if you take out 18-29-year-old and look just at 30 plus, mccain and obama tied. that shows you how important the youth vote is to the president. that is why you see air force one showing up near -- at airports near major universities. they recognize that fact. john mccain beat barack obama 55-43 among white voters. george w. bush, in 2000, beat al gore among white voters 55- 43. the margin was the same. how did gore and bush is essentially tied? you might not know this, bu
between president bush and john kerry. three years after 9/11, it served as a reminder of the terrorist threat and strategists in both parties believe had helped president bush. more recently, the term october surprise has come to mean a seismic event in the fall of an election year. most have centered around foreign policy, others have been about the economy, like in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisers say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact it has to feed into a narrative that already exists, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly, eureeka, this is so surprising, so amazing but rather people nod, yes, this is where we thought things were going. >> that is so fascinating. dana bash is live from our washington bureau. so, question, do some think friday's jobs report from the labor department, could that be an october surprise? >> sure. why not, carol? at this point, anything coul
will be participating. thank to dr. howard and our thanks to time warner cable for getting us connected. john is our for student at miami university. he is a journalism and political major at the university. caller: good morning. what can president obama or governor romney due to work with the next congress? do think this will lead to a greater assertion of executive authority in the next term? guest: thank you, john. i did not know i would be facing the toughest questioners. students and journalism students. let me take your question. congressional approval is at an all-time low. it is up there with paris hilton and the communist party of russia. i think we need to step back and understand many people in this country see the political system as broken. others -- elizabeth warren -- have spoken house some money have seen the system rigged against them. -- so many americans see the system rigged against them. there is a few that those who dislike government for the past 40 years have a stake in diminishing the reputation of government, of congress. i would argue that we have seen a movement in these
back and looked at 2004 for example when you had john kerry and george bush. in sort of late september bush was ahead of kerry by about seven points. after the first debate it was a two-point margin because john kerry did very well. then george w. bush came back and did better at the next debate. but he did narrow the gap after that first debate. and in a race that's as closes a this, wolf, that could make all the difference. >> very close in florida and virginia, for example and a debate tonight could impact the undecided voters. thanks, gloria. >> uh-huh. >>> you want to talk about the trial of the century, it could have happened if the raid in pakistan had unfolded differently. and a woman who came close to death in portland, maine's harbor can thank her lucky stars for some alert bystanders ready to help her. everyone has goals. take the steps to reach yours, with us with real advice, for real goals. the us bank wealth management advisor can help you. every step of the way. from big steps, to little steps. since 1863 we've helped guide our clients, so they can take the steps to hel
for john mccain? >> yes. i vote for the man and not for the party. >> our hash tag is c-span #2012. speaking of the president, if you and the iraq war act of years ago, why did not bring the troops from four years ago? back to the phone calls. we will take a caller from florida. independent line. caller: hello. i have followed this all the time on my tv. i have seen presidents come and go. i was a republican many years ago. i realize that every time we had a republican president, money does not go around. the more affluent people keep it. our economy goes down. i think during the last -- when clinton was in, he balanced the budget. when bush and got it, they spent money like it was going out of style. >> is your vote going to barack obama this time? >> yes. i feel that he is qualified in every phase of the government. i do not think romney knows enough about foreign policy. i think he will get us into a war if he keeps saying what he is saying. >> we will hear about for a policy more in the debate in florida. -- foreign policy it in the debate in florida. >> last night was an impor
beat john mccain by just one point. 49 to 48. but among white men in 2008, he lost by 16 points to john mccain. among white males so far in 2012 romney leads -- you heard some of the leads among other groups but among white males romney over obama 60% to 34%. a 26-point lead among white males. i don't get it. i guess the question is what's wrong with white males. other question is can white males alone save mitt romney? i don't think so. i would love your take on this. help us figure it out. 1-800-steph-12. look what is it about white men? is it they're afraid of losing their job? they're afraid of losing their homes? they're afraid of not getting ahead in the world? they're afraid they won't be able to take care of their families. they're afraid of a black man? what is it? is it racism? is it that they just can't stand the fact that there is a black man in the oval office and you know, they're a white guy and this is a white country and our forefathers were white and what's going on here? we're losing
's hear from john in pennsylvania on the independent line. good morning. will the vice-presidential candidates impact your vote? are you there? let's try missoni in fort worth, texas. -- tony in fort worth, on the democratic line. caller: yes, i think it will impact the vote, for me in particular. during the primaries, i think mitt romney and saw that a generic candidate would probably beat barack obama. i think that's why he is not elaborate on any of his plans. then he chose paul ryan, who has a very distinguished voting record and he has written policies that are extremely right-wing. so i think that he has put himself between a rock and a hard place when you are looking at what he thinks and what paul ryan thinks. often conflict over their different views. host: everything happening over the weekend and this week is very busy under the umbrella of lots more polls coming out. here's one in the "washington times" -- the washington post says the race is tight but not in the key states. they point out to that nationally the race is not moved since early september. carol
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john roberts the deciding vote that upheld president obama's health care law and sparked debate across the country. and keys to the city sold, locks smith sold a ring to an undercover reporter. a dream come true to potential terrorists, elevators, open subway gates, and access to 1 world trade center, he reportedly stole them for a measley 150 bucks and reported will i still has more keys he's trying to sell. well, miss one school lunch payment and you get the hard boiled egg special. that's the new rule at a new jersey school district. a student at two schools owes 3.10. they only get a hard bold egg, crackers and carton of milk for lunch, instead of a full meal. that was not announced until the first day of classes, they've not yet commented. >> alisyn: i think that's great, a great punishment. >> dave: yeah, you'd probably take that punishment. >> alisyn: i could happily-- >> and nothing worse, i mean, hard boiled eggs. and i don't like within 12 feet. >> alisyn: breakfast, hard boiled egg, sounds good. >> horrible. you have the mayonnaise. >> i snuck it to my wife in this chicken s
has done is studied joe biden's tapes and record and joe biden's, john style and said, as you know, one of the best litigators in america and is good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared, attack lines. >> i'm not a "line" guy, i'm more of a gut guy. i'm more of a -- you know me well, i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe in what i believe. i do what i do, and i really believe in the policies we're providing, we are pursuing. and, at the end of the day, i am just going to go in there and be me. >> chris: are you hoping joe biden makes one of his -- >> i don't think he will. he doesn't do that in debates, the gaffes, he's legendary for this, that is not in these kinds of situations, he's a very disciplined person when he speaks in these kind of situations and doesn't produce gaffes in these moments, those are when he's off the cuff, on the stump, out giving speeches. >> chris: you are not counting on one. >> no. >> chris: thank you so much for talking with us. >> thanks, chris, appreciate it. >> chris: with that interview we have now t
and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market dropped over 300 points. >> fear that the country could be entering in one of the most serious recessions in decades, led by wall street's 700-point sell-off. >> now four years later, the president who faced john mccain in those debates and beat him faces his new republican challenger for the first time. >> i'm looking forward to head to head. >> an mirror image of '08, a campaign is chaotic mash. new issues, new controversies, every day. the polls are bad for romney and good for obama in the swing states. but the national numbers are as tight as they get. the primaries are over, the conventions are over, but the debates, the home stretch, starts right now. >>> all right. the pre-season is officiall
, the president was winning independent voters by 13 points. in 2008, he defeated john mccain by 8. i will be looking at the independent numbers. the other thing, too, very quickly, and in terms of minorities and youth vote, the other thing about barack obama's election in 2008 was that he wants something on the order of 43% of the -- won something on the order of 40% of the white vote. look, the country is changing. in 2008, 3/for the electorate was white, down from the mid-to- high-80s years ago. in a very close election, i don't think anyone thought it would be a seven-point race. the metrics are there for him to win. >> to me the most -- sorry to interrupt -- to me the most stunning numbers from 2008 -- one, if you take out the 18-to- 29-year-olds, mccain and obama tied. that shows you how important the youth vote is. by the way, that is why use the air force one is showing up at universities in swing states. the other factor is that john mccain beat barack obama 55-43 among white voters. george w. bush in 2000 beat al gore among white voters 55-43. the margin is the same. so how
that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all the time, but he hadn't been forced in a debate setting to say these are the offensive argument, defensive arguments these are the three points i want to make and i think that was part of his problem. >> i think one of sort of malpractice moments, the most obvious was the two-minute closing statement. you're a speechwriter, you're a columnist now, you prepare presidents. how does he not have a narrative? we talk about narratives and it becomes slangy, but telling a story, with a start, middle and end and he had a two-minute closer that sounded as chris mathews said, memorably, sounded like a concession speech. you know, i'm not a perfect man, i've made mistakes, i'm sure mitt romney would say i've made mistakes how is that the opening line of your two-minute closer? >> yeah. >> that he carried into the closing statement. i don't think that -- i think that was lacking in the rest of the performance for the president. >> the
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